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Not Just Bikes ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

And so it begins.

One of the "predictions" from my self-driving cars video that I was 100% confident would happen was that robotaxis will be programmed not to stop for pedestrians.

The idea that a single individual, outside of a motor vehicle, could stop a robotaxi is antithetical to both the tech bro mentality and American traffic engineering.

msn.com/en-us/news/technology/

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Not Just Bikes ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

The video, in case you missed it:

How Self-Driving Cars will Destroy Cities (and what to do about it)
youtu.be/040ejWnFkj0

Number6 :syncthing:

@notjustbikes

I think you can get portable, collapsible traffic cones.

Vanni Di Ponzano โ‚๐Ÿšด โค๏ธ โ˜• ๐ŸŽ

@notjustbikes

Self-Driving cars is to Driving as Masturbation is to Sexual Intercourse.

insert image of #musk here _______

Allen

@notjustbikes I really hate living in the future.

Jared White โœŠ RESIST ๐Ÿ™…๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

@notjustbikes Thanks for the link! A quote from the article: "Many human drivers donโ€™t yield for pedestrians, either."

Here in Portland, Oregon, pedestrians *rule*. So-called jaywalking is the norm, rather than the exception, and drivers typically slow down and stop at any intersection where pedestrians are clearly waiting to cross.

So if Waymo ever decides to head up north from SF, they've got a whole lot of 'splainin' to do with this sort of automotive behavior.

Martin Atkins

@jaredwhite @notjustbikes
I guess you live an entirely different Portland, Oregon than I do. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Martin Atkins

@jaredwhite @notjustbikes
I am inner northeast.

Rarely a day goes by that I get across the street outside my house without putting myself directly in the path of a vehicle to get the driver to actually stop.

On some extra special days they even cross into the opposing lane to pass me even though I'm already walking across the street.

Despite some investment in basic bike lanes a couple decades ago, this city is still pretty car-centric and drivers don't seem any less entitled here to me. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

@jaredwhite @notjustbikes
I am inner northeast.

Rarely a day goes by that I get across the street outside my house without putting myself directly in the path of a vehicle to get the driver to actually stop.

On some extra special days they even cross into the opposing lane to pass me even though I'm already walking across the street.

Martin Atkins

@jaredwhite @notjustbikes
I suppose I can believe things are better downtown and near there, because there's little reason to go there unless you live or work there.

Edit: I mean as opposed to many roads on the east side that are used as through streets to get to other places, rather than only for local access.

Jared White โœŠ RESIST ๐Ÿ™…๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

@apparentlymart @notjustbikes Ah, yeah perhaps that area gets more risky through trafficโ€ฆpeople think they can barrel down some neighborhood streets the same way they would on MLK. Bummer.

I've had better luck in SE and yes, downtown.

Milos

@notjustbikes I guess people are going to need a lot of traffic cones.
And I'm sure some will try to get hit intentionally to sue them later.

Mark Kahl ๐Ÿšฒ๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

@notjustbikes I don't know, but in the video the behavior of the Waymo vehicles is no different from those driven by humans. Apparently Google is simply copying the anti-pedestrian behavior of "normal" car drivers.

Nils Jansen

@notjustbikes Isn't "let the thing run you over and sue the company into the ground" the way things work in the US?

GhostOnTheHalfShell

@notjustbikes

I wanna make a bet, although itโ€™s very dystopian, that theyโ€™ll soon start lobbying to corral people off city streets entirely. Gotta get everyone to take the cars because safety you know.

Itโ€™s the pipe dream of all the PayPal mafia silicon valley, voyeur sociopath cult types. They gotta be involved in every freaking second and every moment of our lives.

reinierl

@notjustbikes It's only their mentality of not paying taxes that's stronger than their mentality of not stopping. At least that's why I believe I get to stop 7 lanes of traffic with a beg button here to shuffle across a collector road, whereas back in the Netherlands there would have been an underpass so I'm not intimidated and the drivers are not annoyed.

If that's the reason it's penny wise pound foolish though with the opportunity cost of putting 7 lanes put out of business.

NNN

@notjustbikes
I used to predict that when 5% of cars were driverless, everybody else would be forced to drive the speed limit.

I am an optimist.

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