@ristkof I guess you've never been to an American city?...

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@ristkof I guess you've never been to an American city? The poorer neighbourhoods were the ones that had the highways driven through it. I envision the same thing happening with AVs.

Some streets will become AV highways, others will not. The AVs will take people from their condo towers and gated communities and drop them off at malls, office buildings, and lifestyle centres.

There will be no way to get between these places without an AV, but the city will still have nice places for the rich.

Like 10 November at 21:57 | Open on social.notjustbikes.com

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Kristof Van Landschoot

@notjustbikes It's true I have not much experience with US cities, and that I have a hard time imagining why you would want such a lifestyle, even when you can afford it, financially and/or ecologically.

That being said, I still don't understand how AV's will change the equation. Accelerate the already present tendency? Also in European cities (where I live)? Why have European cities not become like American ones then?

I think of AV's more as reinventing trains in the dumbest possible way.

10 November at 22:23 | Open on mastodon.social

FifiSch

@ristkof @notjustbikes In Europe we have a lot less space, so while the post-war US invested into building massive urban sprawls, our governments invested into tower block districts that look less appealing on photos, but are way simpler to connect via public transport.

Also our petrol was always way more expensive than in the US, making the car less appealing.

11 November at 11:49 | Open on social.vivaldi.net